Wednesday, July 27, 2005

Tom Frank Doesn't Get It

Over at the TPM Cafe, there's an interesting discussion of Tom Frank's book, What's the Matter With Kansas. To my mind, Todd Gitlin levels a devastating critique, pointing out its vulgar Marxist assumptions--that Kansans, like all normal people, should be voting their "fundamental" interests, namely economics. As Gitlin points out, by what logic or evidence should we suppose that religious or moral or any other set of beliefs is less fundamental than economic interest? He writes:

The big trouble is with your deep premise, which first shows up on the way from page 1 to page 2: “People getting their fundamental interests wrong is what American political life is all about. This species of derangement is the bedrock of our civic order; it is the foundation on which all else rests.” The point crops up a few hundred more times in your pages.

The problem lies in those glimmering words, “fundamental,” “interest,” and “wrong.” What’s a fundamental interest anyway? You appear to be a pure utilitarian. People ought to be rational calculators, dammit. They may not live by bread alone but when they get stampeded into church by bakery tycoons they should realize they’re being taken for a ride—nothing more. But Marx thought more of religion than that. Religion for him was, after all, “the heart of a heartless world and the soul of soulless conditions…the opium of the people." That’s potent stuff. An opiate of the people gets you high. People get excited about it. They care about it. They will die for it.

In fact, Americans have been excited during much of our national history (and even before there was anything like an American nation) by an actually- or quasi-religious passion—to know Jesus, to build a city on the hill, or, in Tom Paine’s best Deist rendition, to start the world over again—if, that is, we are the people of Great Awakenings, one after another (with intervals), so that over and over Americans are consumed by a rapture of conviction that we are God’s special children, or the masters of the universe. Then why is the belief that we deserve to be so, or that we are already so, and that even the meanest of us burns and deserves to kick the asses of pointy-headed bureaucrats and nattering nabobs of negativism, not “fundamental”?

If millions of people are galvanized into politics by a quivering passion to save “the babies,” that is, fetuses, why is their passion not fundamental?

When millions of all colors marched for civil rights, were their passions not “fundamental”? Did they have no “interest” in racial equality?

You and I share a passion for social equality. If we had our druthers, our taxes would surely go up in the interest of that equality. Not as much as a CEO’s, I daresay, but some. I would still insist that our politics are fundamental to our beings—more fundamental, in fact, than our bank balances—and I doubt this is because you and I are victims of a species of false consciousness promoted by diabolical new-class levelers. Are our interests in equality not “fundamental” or “interests”?


In response to this, Frank has, well, nothing. Instead of taking on the substance of Gitlin's argument, Frank nitpicks by claiming that he can't be a vulgar Marxist because he hasn't read much Marx!

4 comments:

George M Weinert V said...

What Democrat DOES get it?

Hillary says she does but she is LYSING THROUGH HER TEETH!

God BLess America,
Http://americanjihad.blogspot.com/

George M Weinert V said...

America Does not get it!

Is ABC INSANE?

The presentation of this evening's "Nightline" Thursday, July 28, 2005 was truly incredible. While:

* The UK is reeling from the Latest Islamic Terror Murders and expecting even more bombings
* The USA has observed Arabs with shoulder-fired missiles near our Airports
* NYC Police have apprehended Egyptian nations with maps of the New York City Subway and commuters must live in feat of a Islamic Terrorist Attack

ABC NEWS GIVES A HALF HOUR IN PRIME TIME TO A MURDEROUS TERRORIST!

The bloodthirsty sack of s**t that ABC gave a full half an hour to was directly responsible for the SLAUGHTER OF HUNDREDS OF SCHOOL CHILDREN IN BESLAN, RUSSIA and the CRUEL KILLINGS OF OVER 100 INNOCENT THEATRE GOERS and HE WANTS YOU TO BE NEXT!

Sheessh!

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN AMERICA?

* We've witnessed decades of gay liberal proselytizing about the "Poor" Palestinian Muslim Scum who cruelly murder women and children
* We've heard idiots like Norm Chomsky and Ward Churchill assault not only our intelligence but the very foundations of human decency by BLAMING AMERICA for the Islamic Terrorist
* We've heard left wing whackos like Howard Dean, John Kerry and Hanoi Jane Fonda assure us that "If we're only nice to them, they'll be nice to us" as a response to the GENOCIDE OF THE MUSLIM SAVAGES

HAS THE AMERICAN MEDIA GONE COMPLETELY COMPLETELY MAD?!?!?!?!?

WAKE UP AMERICA!

Muslims regard YOU AS AN UNBELIEVER AND WANT TO KILL ! -

THIS IS WHAT THESE CRAZED MUSLIM MURDERERS HAVE IN STORE FOR YOU!

This is what their 'KORAN' has to say on the subject of "Unbelievers" - also known affectionately as infidel or kufar or Mushrikun (polytheists): (THAT'S YOU! )

The Cow
[2.19] Or like abundant rain from the cloud in which is utter darkness and
thunder and lightning; they put their fingers into their ears because of the
thunder peal, for fear of death, and Allah encompasses the unbelievers.

The Kufar hide from Islamic justice but will suffer the vengeance of Allah (YOU ARE THE KAFIR AMERICA!)

[2.24] But if you do (it) not and never shall you do (it), then be on your
guard against the fire of which men and stones are the fuel; it is prepared
for the unbelievers.

If Muslims do NOT kill the AMERICAN, they shall also suffer hell.

[2.89] And when there came to them a Book from Allah verifying that which they
have, and aforetime they used to pray for victory against those who
disbelieve, but when there came to them (Prophet) that which they did not
recognize, they disbelieved in him; so Allah's curse is on the unbelievers.

Muslims believe that the Holy Koran is the final revelation from God and negates the Torah and the Holy Bible. All who refuse to acknowledge this are cursed by Allah who is Kind, Merciful.

[2.90] Evil is that for which they have sold their souls-- that they should
deny what Allah has revealed, out of envy that Allah should send down of His
grace on whomsoever of His servants He pleases; so they have made themselves
deserving of wrath upon wrath, and there is a disgraceful punishment for the
unbelievers.

All non-Muslims are evil and deserving of a terrible fate and an eternity in Islamic Hell. YOU ARE EVIL AMERICA!

[2.98] Whoever is the enemy of Allah and His angels and His apostles and
Jibreel and Meekaeel, so surely Allah is the enemy of the unbelievers.

The Vengeful 'old Allah himself views all non-Muslims as the enemies of God and who questions God?
YOU ARE AN ENEMY OF GOD AMERICA!

[2.109] Many of the followers of the Book wish that they could turn you back
into unbelievers after your faith, out of envy from themselves, (even) after
the truth has become manifest to them; but pardon and forgive, so that Allah
should bring about His command; surely Allah has power over all things.

The "Followers of the Book" are the Jews who wish to convince Muslims to abandon their heresy and return to God's word. But Allah has power over them and shall exact his mighty vengeance upon them and the CRAZED MUSLIMS MUST FOLLOW THE BLOODY KORAN!.

[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence
they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not
fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if
they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

And here is that vengeance that is due to all non-Muslims. THIS MEANS THAT THE MUSLIM MUST KILL YOU AMERICA!

[2.254] O you who believe! spend out of what We have given you before the day
comes in which there is no bargaining, neither any friendship nor
intercession, and the unbelievers-- they are the unjust.

Since the Kufar are 'unjust' and destined for Hell, they must be avoided until they can be killed. YOU MUST BE BUTCHERED AMERICA!

The Family of Imran
[3.28] Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than
believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship
of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully;
and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is
the eventual coming.

Once again, Mo urges Muslims to avoid any contact with non-Muslims and risk the retribution of God himself if they associate with the Evil Kufar. YOU AMERICA!

[3.32] Say: Obey Allah and the Apostle; but if they turn back, then surely
Allah does not love the unbelievers.

God Himself hates the Kufar according to Mo and his teaching. ALLAH DOES NOT LOVE YOU! (who really gives a flying f**k?)

[3.91] Surely, those who disbelieve and die while they are unbelievers, the
earth full of gold shall not be accepted from one of them, though he should
offer to ransom himself with it, these it is who shall have a painful
chastisement, and they shall have no helpers.

AMERICANS are marked for death by Allah and can expect no succor or Mercy but only doom and eternal punishment.

[3.100] O you who believe! if you obey a party from among those who have been
given the Book, they will turn you back as unbelievers after you have
believed.

If a Muslim obeys a KARIR AMERICA, they become as Kufar themselves.

[3.131] And guard yourselves against the fire which has been prepared for the
unbelievers.

Muslims must always be on guard against those not sharing their religion, lest they suffer the dire fate that awaits the unbeliever. THAT FIRE IS FOR YOU AMERICA!

[3.141] And that He may purge those who believe and deprive the unbelievers of
blessings.

Allah himself will deny any worldly and eternal blessing to the EVIL AMERICAN.

[3.165] What! when a misfortune befell you, and you had certainly afflicted
(the unbelievers) with twice as much, you began to say: Whence is this? Say:
It is from yourselves; surely Allah has power over all things.

Muslims can only expect dire consequences from associating with theAMERICAN Kufar.

The Women
[4.18] And repentance is not for those who go on doing evil deeds, until when
death comes to one of them, he says: Surely now I repent; nor (for) those who
die while they are unbelievers. These are they for whom We have prepared a
painful chastisement.

More babbling about excruciating reproach FOR AMERICA- Lo, Allah is Kind, Merciful!

[4.101] And when you journey in the earth, there is no blame on you if you
shorten the prayer, if you fear that those who disbelieve will cause you
distress, surely the unbelievers are your open enemy.

Muslims must consider anyone who does not share their religion an enemy. THE MUSLIM BELIEVES THAT ARE THE ENEMY AMERICA!

[4.102] And when you are among them and keep up the prayer for them, let a
party of them stand up with you, and let them take their arms; then when they
have prostrated themselves let them go to your rear, and let another party who
have not prayed come forward and pray with you, and let them take their
precautions and their arms; (for) those who disbelieve desire that you may be
careless of your arms and your luggage, so that they may then turn upon you
with a sudden united attack, and there is no blame on you, if you are annoyed
with rain or if you are sick, that you lay down your arms, and take your
precautions; surely Allah has prepared a disgraceful chastisement for the
unbelievers.

AMERICANS must submit themselves before Muslims and KISS THEIR SMELLY ARSE (go to your rear) for their only fate is an ignominious admonition.

[4.139] Those who take the unbelievers for guardians rather than believers. Do
they seek honor from them? Then surely all honor is for Allah.

There is no honor to be found amongst anyone but Muslims according to Mo and his two brothers, Larry and Curly. YOU ARE LIARS AMERICA!

[4.140] And indeed He has revealed to you in the Book that when you hear
Allah's communications disbelieved in and mocked at do not sit with them until
they enter into some other discourse; surely then you would be like them;
surely Allah will gather together the hypocrites and the unbelievers all in
hell.

Allah shall punish all who disbelieve in or mock Mo's revelations with Hell. ALLAH SHALL PUNISH AMERICA!

[4.144] O you who believe! do not take the unbelievers for friends rather than
the believers; do you desire that you should give to Allah a manifest proof
against yourselves?

Mo urges Muslims to diligently avoid all contact with the Kufar (YOU AMERICA!) to avoid bringing eternal damnation upon themselves. Lo, Allah is Benevolent!

[4.151] These it is that are truly unbelievers, and We have prepared for the
unbelievers a disgraceful chastisement.

More blubbering from Mohammed about the dire fate that awaits ALL AMERICANS!

The Elevated Places
[7.37] Who is then more unjust than he who forges a lie against Allah or
rejects His communications? (As for) those, their portion of the Book shall
reach them, until when Our messengers come to them causing them to die, they
shall say: Where is that which you used to call upon besides Allah? They would
say: They are gone away from us; and they shall bear witness against
themselves that they were unbelievers

The People of the Book (Jews and Christians) are condemned to death and their heretical belief in anything other than Islam damns them for Eternity. YOU MUST DIE AMERICA!

[7.50] And the inmates of the fire shall call out to the dwellers of the
garden, saying: Pour on us some water or of that which Allah has given you.
They shall say: Surely Allah has prohibited them both to the unbelievers.

Muslims are instructed not to give aid to non-Muslims, no matter how severe their suffering or terrible the pain they suffer. YOU WILL BE INMATES OF THE FIRE AMERICA!

The Accessions
[8.14] This-- taste it, and (know) that for the unbelievers is the
chastisement of fire.
[8.18] This, and that Allah is the weakener of the struggle of the
unbelievers.

More dire predictions of the fate awaiting AMERICANS from the bloody hand of Allah.

The Immunity
[9.2] So go about in the land for four months and know that you cannot weaken
Allah and that Allah will bring disgrace to the unbelievers.

ALLAH WILL BRING DISGRACE TO YOU AMERICA!

[9.49] And among them there is he who says: Allow me and do not try me. Surely
into trial have they already tumbled down, and most surely hell encompasses
the unbelievers.

AMERICANS have refused to heed Allah's message and must suffer Hell.

Abraham
[14.2] (Of) Allah, Whose is whatever is in the heavens and whatever Is in the
earth; and woe to the unbelievers on account of the severe chastisement,

More woe and agony is foretold for YOU AMERICA.

The Bee
[16.27] Then on the resurrection day He will bring them to disgrace and say:
Where are the associates you gave Me, for whose sake you became hostile? Those
who are given the knowledge will say: Surely the disgrace and the evil are
this day upon the unbelievers:

On the day of resurrection, the vengeful Allah, not satisfied with the eternal punishment he has already meted out, rewards AMERICANS with yet another eternity of agony and hell fire.

The Cave
[18.100] And We will bring forth hell, exposed to view, on that day before the
unbelievers.

THE MUSLIMS ARE GOING TO KILL YOU AND SENT YOU INTO HELL!

[39.59] Aye! My communications came to you, but you rejected them, and you
were proud and you were one of the unbelievers.

AMERICANS rejected Mo's revelation so they are damned.

[47.34] Surely those who disbelieve and turn away from Allah's way, then they
die while they are unbelievers, Allah will by no means forgive them.

More prophecies of destruction, death and Hell for AMERICA.

The Victory
[48.13] And whoever does not believe in Allah and His Apostle, then surely We
have prepared burning fire for the unbelievers.

THE MUSLIMS HAVE ONLY BURNING FIRE FOR YOU AMERICA!

This is what the Holy Koran has to say about the 'unbelievers' - judge for yourself and there are the verses that Muslim children are taught to memorize from their earliest days in "Islamic" schools. Is this religion then:

* Tolerant?
* Loving?
* Merciful?
* Peaceful?

If you believe that, I've got some swamp land.....................................

It gets even better: THE BLOODY MUSLIMS HAVE EVEN MORE FOR AMERICA!

Koran 9:29
Fight those who do not profess the true faith (Islam) till they pay the jiziya (poll tax) with the hand of humility.

So here Prophet Mohammed is instructing a true Muslim to fight people of other religions until the unbelievers debase themselves and pay tax for their existence. So the greatness of Islam is revealed only when followers of other religions are humiliated. (note - this is tantamount to theologically sanctioned blackmail) Muslims are born criminals, so this blackmail comes naturally for them.

Koran 8:12
Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them." ?

Here Mohammed is giving step by step instruction on how to torture and kill Kafirs (all non-Muslims) if they don't follow Islam. (a truly loving and imminently peaceful religion) Note carefully the reference to "Terror" - this text dates from the late 7th century. THE MUSLIMS WILL BRING YOU TERROR!

Koran 9:5
"Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolators wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

In the above verse Prophet Mohammed is clearly instructing his followers to kill the idolators in any brutal way possible until the idolators submit themselves to Islam. Allah is indeed merciful !! (and incredibly cruel) Koran 9:5 is widely used by all Islamic Terrorist groups as a God given justification for murder.
YOU ARE THE IDOLATOR AMERICA! THE MUSLIMS WANT TO KILL YOU!

Koran 9:73
Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their Home: an evil fate.

Here Mohammed is trying to justify his brutal acts. He conveniently claims divine justification for the expression of his hatred by saying Allah himself revealed to him personally that people of other religions are evil and belong in Hell. Therefore, according to Mohammed any barbaric act against the unbelievers is completely justified. (appealing to the barbaric nature inherent in the Bedouin tribes that were vital to the early successes and remarkable spread of Islam)
YOU ARE THE UNBELIEVER AMERICA! THE MUSLIMS WANT TO KILL YOU!

Koran 47:4
When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly. Then grant them their freedom or take ransom from them, until War shall lay down her burdens.

In the above verse, Mohammed is giving detailed instruction about how to maim and torture unbelievers in Jihad. And finally when the Muslims are satisfied enough after torturing and maiming the unbelievers, they should proceed to demand ransom for the captives, carefully maintaining the paradigm of theft in the name of God and once more Mo finds a way to extort money along the way - always appealing to the ontological dishonesty of the Arabic tribal psyche.. All for the sake for all-merciful (and obviously very rich) Allah !!
(we are witnessing this phenomena almost daily in Iraq with kidnapping for ransom though the Press does not even report it) THE CRAZED MUSLIMS WANT TO CHOP OFF YOUR HEAD!

Take a few moments and Goto: Michael Savage AND WATCH THESE EVIL BASTARDS AS THEY BEHEAD THEIR HELPLESS VICTIMS AND CHANT GOD IS GREAT! (The links to these horrible videos are about half way down the page)

(Koran 5:33-34
The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom; Save those who repent before ye overpower them. For know that Allah is Forgiving, merciful.

In this verse, Mohammed devises another recipe for torturing unbelievers. This particular recipe involves chopping off alternate limbs and expelling the Kafirs (people following other religions) out of the land. A quite forgiving and most certainly merciful method of proselytizing, is it not?
YOU WILL BE KILLED OR CRUCIFIED AMERICA!

The Muslims never loudly renounce these verses, they either deny that they exist or make excuses ad nauseum for them.

THE MUSLIM SAVAGES WANT TO KILL US ALL!

WAKE UP AMERICA!

THE MUSLIMS WANT TO KILL YOU!

AND ABC GIVES THESE EVIL MONSTERS A HALF HOUR IN PRIME TIME?

Muslims believe that non-Muslims are kaffir-those disbelieving in Islam. This is not an insult; it is a description. The God in whom we believe did not come from the womb of a mother. The USA is a kaffir state-and kaffir includes those U.S. Muslims who ally with non-Muslims, e.g. in the U.S. Army, as in Iraq, and are therefore legitimate targets of jihad.

"He [Ibn Taymiyya] also said: 'Allah made it lawful to kill people as much as necessary for the good of humanity. As He said [in the Koran, 2:217]: "The temptation [of idolatry] [fitna] is worse than killing."

"Cursed is the man who trusts in human beings,
who SEEKS HIS STRENGTH IN FLESH,
whose HEART turns AWAY FROM THE LORD.
Bring upon them the DAY OF MISFORTUNE,
CRUSH THEM WITH REPEATED DESTRUCTION."

Jeremiah 17:5,6;18

* THIS IS A WAR ON DEMOCRACY
* THIS IS A WAR ON FREEDOM
* THIS IS A WAR ON CIVILIZATION ITSELF

We must never forget about 9/11 and the attack on the USS Cole. And the destruction of the Marine barracks in Beirut. And the Khomeini regime and the hostage crisis. And thousands of other incidents, stretching back in time to when Muhammad led the first Muslims in the first jihad.

Islamist extremists in the world as estimated by moderate Muslim
leaders: about 12 million. Fundamentalist sympathizers: 120 million.

Those numbers represent 1 percent and 10 percent of the world's
Muslim population of 1.2 billion. The CIA puts the extremists much
higher - 40 million.

The Ayatollah Khomeini stated that the "Quran says: kill-imprison! Why are you only clinging to the part that talks about mercy? Mercy is against God"; and, "We need a Khalifa (leader of Islamic state) who would chop hands, cut throat, stone people."

THE MUSLIMS WANT TO CHOP OF YOUR HANDS, CUT YOUR THROAT AND STONE YOU TO DEATH!

Not all Muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslims.

Ibn Ishaq, Muhammad's earliest biographer (and a pious Muslim) recounts the massacre of the Jewish Banu Qurayzah: "The apostle went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for [the men of Banu Qurayza] and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches.... There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900." (Ibn Ishaq's Sira, 689).

* Muslims have been the world's largest suppliers of OPIATE DRUGS for all of recorded history and they are the LARGEST GROUP OF DOPE FIENDS ON EARTH. Chronic Drug Abuse causes Serious BRAIN DAMAGE - the Arabs have FRIED THEIR MEAGER BRAINS for thousands of years on hard drugs.

* Muslim males are also HIGHLY PROMISCUOUS and will have sex with as many women as they can afford, also with men (which many prefer - 52% of Saudi males admit they are homosexuals) and even domestic animals since it is blessed by Islam. Promiscuity leads to VENEREAL DISEASE which often goes untreated for many years and atrophies large portions of the brain. VD ALSO LEADS TO SERIOUS BRAIN DAMAGE

These two dilemmas have been a constant or Arab history and the lack of medical care has compounded this societal psychosis over thousands of years, accounting for the nearly incomprehensible thought processes seen so often in Al-Alam.

Muslims don't just SEEM CRAZY - THEY ARE CRAZY!

Omar Ahmad, CAIR's chairman, announced in July 1998 that "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran . . . should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth."

THESE CRAZED MUSLIMS WANT TO KILL US ALL!

WE MUST FIGHT SIR, I SAY WE MUST FIGHT! - John Payne, 1775

"Actually, its a lot of fun to fight. You know, it's a hell of a hoot. I like brawling...You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for 5 years because they didn't wear a veil...You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James Mattis, US Army

LET US RECALL THESE GREAT WORDS:

We shall fight on the beaches. We shall fight on the landing grounds. We shall fight in the fields and in the streets. We shall fight in the hills. We shall never surrender!
- Prime Minister Winston Churchill (after the Japanese attack on
Pearl Harbor)

Let us pray:

"St. Michael, the Archangel, Defend Us IN BATTLE. Be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the Devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do Thou, O heavenly Host, through the POWER OF GOD - THRUST INTO HELL SATAN and ALL THE EVIL SPIRITS that prowl about the world, seeking the ruin of souls. Amen"

Praise the Lord and God Bless America,
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Boinkette said...

Wow...that was a long comment, dude.

Boinkette said...

As for the actual post, I think what Tom Frank meant is that the people of Kansas are being tricked into voting based on ideology when the people they vote for don't actually do much to further that ideology, but rather sell them out. In other words, Frank wasn't decrying merely the fact that Kansans vote against their economic interests (as do wealthy liberals), but also the fact that they're putting aside their economic interests without getting much in return.