Wednesday, October 15, 2008

Debate Reaction

Both candidates were good, so I'll call it a draw except that I think McCain's dismissive response on women's health exceptions for abortions will come back to haunt him.

Update: Chris Matthews agrees.


Anonymous said...

Yes, that will come back to haunt him. That, along with his childish behavior throughout the debate. Perhaps he forgot about the splitscreen?

Anonymous said...

Is any one else getting as worried as I am that the Democrats are turning into the Left's version of George Bush? I vote back and forth, so it's not personal to me, but this has actually gone far too far left for my taste. We might become the most socialistic nation in the free world, and my free I mean with open, honest elections.

Honestly, I think Obama is more like Bush than McCain...not in direction, but in degree and determination to get there regardless of what we really want.

Anonymous said...

I don't share your concerns. Frankly, determination and ambition are a given in all presidential candidates. They all have to be incredibly motivated to win, simply in order to put up with all the crap during the campaign, and all the challenges of office if they win.

Anonymous said...

I find the extended Biden speech so revealing. This is more of what he said with top donors. Where do you even begin on this? I guess the reference to Christ is my favorite. But telling supporters they won't support Obama's actions in foreign policy is quite shocking and more than a little reminiscent of how the fascists started.

Joe Biden on 10/19/08:

"My generic point is you can't win it militarily, you gotta go beyond that."

"David Brooks wrote a piece basically endorsing Barack Obama last week in the New York Times. You should get it. And I think it best summarizes why Barack is the right guy at the right moment for this job, that he understands, like Maria does, he looks at this from a very different perspective. This is the 21st century. We do not have the military capacity, nor have we ever, quite frankly, in the last 20 years, to dictate outcomes. It's so much more important than that. It's so much more complicated than that. And Barack gets it."

"We're gonna find ourselves in real trouble when we get elected. This is gonna be really hard. This is gonna be really, really, really hard."

"And here's the point I want to make. Mark my words. Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy. And he's gonna have to make some really tough - I don't know what the decision's gonna be, but I promise you it will occur. As a student of history and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it's gonna happen. I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate. And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you, not financially to help him, we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right. Because all these decisions, all these decisions, once they're made if they work, then they weren't viewed as a crisis. If they don't work, it's viewed as you didn't make the right decision, a little bit like how we hesitated so long dealing with Bosnia and dealing with Kosovo, and consequently 200,000 people lost their lives that maybe didn't have to lose lives. It's how we made a mistake in Iraq. We made a mistake in Somalia. So there's gonna be some tough decisions. They may emanate from the Middle East. They may emanate from the sub-continent. They may emanate from Russia's newly-emboldened position because they're floating in a sea of oil."

"Only thing I'm asking you is, you know, gird your loins. We're gonna win with your help, God willing, we're gonna win, but this is not gonna be an easy ride. This president, the next president, is gonna be left with the most significant task. It's like cleaning the Aegean stables, man. This is more than just, this is more than - think about it, literally, think about it - this is more than just a capital crisis, this is more than just markets, this is a systemic problem we have with this economy."

"… But he's gonna need your help. Because I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going 'oh my God, why are they there in the polls, why is the polling so down, why is this thing so tough? We're gonna have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years. So I'm asking you now, I'm asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you're going to have to reinforce us."

"Let's not be, for those of a different faith remember St. Peter denied Christ thrice, you know? We don't need anybody denying us, this is gonna be tough. There are gonna be a lot of you who want to go 'whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don't know about that decision.'"

"I probably shouldn't have said all this because it dawned on me that the press is here."

As reported by Matthew Jaffe 
ABC News 
Washington, DC, who was present.